Curse

set asside · Nov 12, 2011, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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I think it's pretty decent, at least it's been doing some decent damage for me. But a few hard core pvpers have told me things like making fun of the 100b skill, or telling me that only hammer is good in pvp. For anyones information the 100b skill still affects your target + when you're blinded it still dishes out damage. I'm probably missing something but the other sword elites suck majorly.

I have all campaigns and skills besides eotn so if you want to recommend some skills to me that would be great

KotCR · Nov 13, 2011, 10:43 AM // 10:43

Crippling Slash is the sword elite of choice for PvP. You won't get as much leverage out of it as a Hammer Elite in most cases, but its pretty decent otherwise and is handy for both offensive utility, linebacking and bar compression. It doesn't suck, but is a bit overshadowed these days by Dervish Cripple spam.

Hundred Bladed is okay but its a damage only elite, and for focused 1H damage in PvP, you are better off with an Axe. The purpose of sword is flexibility and you lose that by choosing Hundred Blades as your elite.

Fluffy Kittens · Nov 13, 2011, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Drop IWAY take frenzy, drop bullstrike take cancel stance like rush and you'll be fine

ac1inferno · Nov 13, 2011, 07:19 PM // 19:19

For PvP Sword, there's a generic template to follow:

1. Bleeding - Severe Artery
2. Gash
3. Follow Up - Sun and Moon Slash
4. Utility - long list
5. Bull's Strike
6. Frenzy
7. Rush
8. Res Signet

The reason why Crippling Slash is the elite of choice for swords is because it provides bleeding and a snare so Severe Artery and Bull's Strike gets freed up allowing you two slots for utility. Most people prefer Conjure X and Savage Slash but Rending Touch, Shock, Rip Enchantment, and Disrupting Dagger are also some viable options.

If you insist on using Hundred Blades as your elite, that can only go into the utility slot.

I would suggest against dropping Bull's Strike if you don't have another snare because it's important to keep the foe from kiting away from you when you unload your adrenaline combo so you can do it while in Frenzy.

Ariena Najea · Nov 13, 2011, 07:33 PM // 19:33

The main draws of Sword Warriors currently are Crippling Slash and Savage Slash. Given the number of physicals, particularly Dervishes, in most matches Cripple is extremely effective. Savage Slash, typically brought in place of Bull's Strike, allows a Sword Warrior to "train" a Prot Monk (or an RA Monk with Guardian) and interrupt WoH, Guardian, or other key skills. Sun and Moon Slash to a lesser extent allows a Sword Warrior to push a kill through Guardian and/or defensive stances.

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/E_Crippling_Slash_Warrior

Conjure Frost is generally your best bet.

LifeInfusion · Nov 14, 2011, 12:54 AM // 00:54

IWAY is a terrible IAS. Hundred Blades is terrible because it isn't armor ignoring unlike Conjures/Ebon Dust Aura/Avatar of Grenth. At least you have two damage types (Fire+slashing). If you had only slashing damage, 100B is even worse since a shield swap mitigates 100% of your damage instead of only the sword damage part.
24 slash @14
vs 70 (tormentor/blessed)+10 vs slash shield+8 shield , or 88armor= 0.6156 x
=15 damage

I'd pack a better IAS like frenzy and swap bull's (unless you're very good with it) for something like dash/rush/sprint/enraging charge/etc.

Consider this: what is stopping Shield of Absorption/Shielding Hands/Guardian from making this build do nothing?

If you play sword, then you pretty much have to consider why you would use W/any (usually W/E with Conjure Frost in the case of sword) over a D/W with Ebon Dust Aura or a Onslaught/Grenth's one.
* +8 more armor on Shield (Dervish only has tactics)?
* strength armor penetration on attack skills?
* more base physical armor?

Dervishes have AoE cripple via Aura of Thorns (+Crippling Sweep, Harrier's Grasp), so Cripslash isn't that attractive anymore. Earth isn't a viable PvP element in most cases for eles, so it's also more solid when running in a mixed group (Mind Blast + Invoke air ele + Water snare ele are common in non-RA PvP). Sins can bring Crippling Dagger/Hidden Caltrops , or YAA ("You're All Alone!") as A/W. Rangers can use Crip Shot.

EDIT: in fact, this is why people brought Grasping earth. Conditions that are supposed to stick don't stay long in PvP due to Foul Feast+draw conditions/Restore condition.

Since both Shock Axe warriors and Magehunter's Smash/Backbreaker/Dev Hammer/Earthshaker warriors are more dangerous than Conjure Swords, I really can't recommend sword warriors. Savage Slash isn't all that "wow" since a well-placed Guardian or disciplined stance screws that over and Distracting Shot/Savage Shot are lower recharge. Dervish-warriors have the added ability of using Twin moon sweep with Aura of thorns or Grenth's grasp for more cripple.

Sword damage is very low without conjures. Unless your idea of utility is cripple or adrenaline-dumping-linebacking with disarm, sword doesn't have more utility than axe/hammer. Actually, unless it's a shock axe or hammer warrior, your threat level is very low due to lack of knockdown. That's why many hardcore PvPers tell you to go hammer.

I'd argue axe is more flexible than sword. You just need dismember + executioner's/body blow. See http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/E_Shock_Axe, http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/E_Whirling_Axe, http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:W/E_Coward_Axe

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Originally Posted by lemming

Don't run sword.

*lemming* · Nov 14, 2011, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Don't run sword.

depeche · Nov 14, 2011, 07:31 AM // 07:31

The cripslash (with conjure) build isn't bad but there are a lot better builds for a warrior in RA.
Your conjure will probably be stripped very fast, so in most matches don't count on the extra damage from your conjure.

Try out the hammer line, devastating hammer is the most used build in RA.
Learn how to quarterknock and u will be fine.
Its the best warrior build for RA.

Axe is fine too, mostly due to its high pressure, try eviscarate or whirling axe if u go this line.